The Tornado Warning Mess -- National Service Replies
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List of Problematic Tornado Warnings Since April 30, 2023
(in reverse chronological order)
· https://www.mikesmithenterprisesblog.com/2023/12/no-advance-warning-for-fatal.html (fatal tornado)
· https://www.mikesmithenterprisesblog.com/2023/12/it-happened-again-strong-tornado-on.html
· https://www.mikesmithenterprisesblog.com/2023/09/dont-count-on-nws-to-warn-you-of.html
· https://www.mikesmithenterprisesblog.com/2023/08/another-tragic-poorly-warned-tornado.html (fatal)
· www.mikesmithenterprisesblog.com/2023/08/another-giant-tornado-warning-miss.html
· www.mikesmithenterprisesblog.com/2023/08/tornado-warning-miss-3-this-weekend.html
· www.mikesmithenterprisesblog.com/2023/08/the-second-missouri-tornado-warning.html
· www.mikesmithenterprisesblog.com/2023/08/another-shocking-tornado-warning-miss.html
· www.mikesmithenterprisesblog.com/2023/07/strong-tornado-without-advance-warning.html
· www.mikesmithenterprisesblog.com/2023/07/another-bizarre-nws-tornado-warning.html
· www.mikesmithenterprisesblog.com/2023/07/when-did-nws-decide-to-get-out-of.html
· www.mikesmithenterprisesblog.com/2023/06/matador-another-fatal-tornado-without.html (fatal)
· www.mikesmithenterprisesblog.com/2023/06/again-fatal-tornado-strikes-perryton.html (fatal)
· www.mikesmithenterprisesblog.com/2023/05/fatal-texas-tornado-struck-without.html (fatal)
· www.mikesmithenterprisesblog.com/2023/05/virginia-beach-ef-3-another.html
· www.mikesmithenterprisesblog.com/2023/04/there-is-exceptional-number-of.html
I really appreciate the time taken by Ken, Dr. Spinrad and the others that had input into the reply. I have several comments about it.
- National Weather Service tornado warnings were excellent 15 years ago. They've decreased rapidly in accuracy and lead-time (advance notice) since 2011. While Ken acknowledges that decrease, no reason or plan for repair is given.
- False alarm rate: From 2016 to 2020 (latest figures available), the average false alarm rate (FAR) was 69.4 percent. In 2022, the FAR was 66%. That represents an improvement of 5%. I question the whether the public can perceive a difference that small. Plus, is the 5% decrease in FAR worth sacrificing 27 points of tornado warning accuracy? Or sacrificing 20% of the lead-time (advance notice) of the arrival of a tornado? My sense is "no," but others may disagree.
- While mass casualties generally occur with EF-3 to EF-5 intensity tornadoes, deaths occur in all tornado intensities. If you were a loved one of the two women killed in the poorly warned Perryton Tornado (above), do you think you would care it was an EF-2 rather than, say, an EF-4? Here is an example of an F-1 tornado that killed 16 people.
- Where are the statistics they reference? As we have discussed before, the page that used to have all of these stats is now behind a login and password. They are a government agency and, as such, their data should be widely available -- good or bad.
- I take Ken at his word regarding the training NWS meteorologists receive before they "solo" on the tornado warning desk. However, that conflicts with first-person reports from three NWS meteorologists (one active, two retired) who have gotten in touch with me.
- I appreciate the tornado and severe thunderstorm watches and other information referenced but none of those cause people to scurry to the basement or crawl into a bathtub to save their lives. That is why the tornado warnings are critically important.
- I understand why they cannot comment on a bill before Congress. However, if my Natural Disaster Review Board (NDRB) becomes law, they will take over validation of NWS warnings and all of that data will be readily available.
Mike, I respectfully ask you to check with your NWS contacts about the IDSS program referenced by Mr. Graham. This paradigm shift in the NWS occurred roughly the same time warning verification began to slide. It effectively changed meteorologists time and resources away from weather science toward partner support, social media interaction and the production of graphics. Also, you are on the right track with forecaster training. What used to be a several week residency course for radar and warning operations in Norman, OK changed to on-line learning many years ago, with predictable results. (this comment originally jumped to the wrong article).
ReplyDeleteThank you for your comment. I've heard about the training issue from 3 other NWS meteorologists.
DeleteThis is a most excellent post all the way around Mike….and the comment by “retired meteorologist” also makes a solid contribution here. Very impressed at the quality and scope of your continued great works….and you working on Saturday June 8, 1974 is very nearly *50* years ago now.
ReplyDeleteThe 50th anniversary of June 8 had not occurred to me. Thank you, we'll have to think of something to commemorate.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the compliment.